Ira Pike

[McAvoy]

Quote 1 from Part 7 of 7 Days of Hell

After Angel arrived back in her hotel room an hour or so ago she had a long relaxing shower. She was now in a deep sleep. So deep she completely ignored calls for her to aid EDF troops who pressed against Chronos operations. Now that she was asleep for the first time in a number of days nothing was about to wake her up. In a way she probably though wished she could. She was having a nightmare, she was pregnant and her child was lost to her after a zoanoid badly injured her. The dream seemed odd to her like she was seeing through someone else’s eyes reliving their nightmare. The dream continued and changed like all dreams do. She died in her dream to a creature she did not know and had never seen bore only for the darkness to fade and for to be reborn to a binging light that bound her. She looked down at her Guyver enhanced stomach only to notice she was pregnant again?

This is the story of Ira Pike as told from the old stories of Great War of the Guyvers and Meeting of the Warriors story. W'Kar has noticed that she is familiar to him. He was never able to put a finger on it.

Zeus watches this, then is blasted aside by explosions around the Clan Ship, his grip of Assassin Guyver loosens as she floats off towards the lightning flux of the dimensional vortex and the plasma of the sun. He watches as she passes through the outer edge of the explosion and saw what appeared to be two shadows of her separate and one is pulled away by a blue light before vanishing.

Second quote from Meeting of the Warriors towards the end.

In the other words, there are two Ira Pikes. One was pulled and the other free floated apparently to WG's universe as Assassin Guyver.

I believe Angel is Ira Pike. Possibly as a mind wiped agent of the Kregen with a stolen Omega class Kavzar unit. Even the Gen does not know why she is here. I think Sedah was created by the Gen to either capture or kill her.

What do you think?

[guyverfanatic]

Quote 1 from Part 7 of 7 Days of Hell

After Angel arrived back in her hotel room an hour or so ago she had a long relaxing shower. She was now in a deep sleep. So deep she completely ignored calls for her to aid EDF troops who pressed against Chronos operations. Now that she was asleep for the first time in a number of days nothing was about to wake her up. In a way she probably though wished she could. She was having a nightmare, she was pregnant and her child was lost to her after a zoanoid badly injured her. The dream seemed odd to her like she was seeing through someone else’s eyes reliving their nightmare. The dream continued and changed like all dreams do. She died in her dream to a creature she did not know and had never seen bore only for the darkness to fade and for to be reborn to a binging light that bound her. She looked down at her Guyver enhanced stomach only to notice she was pregnant again?

This is the story of Ira Pike as told from the old stories of Great War of the Guyvers and Meeting of the Warriors story. W'Kar has noticed that she is familiar to him. He was never able to put a finger on it.

Zeus watches this, then is blasted aside by explosions around the Clan Ship, his grip of Assassin Guyver loosens as she floats off towards the lightning flux of the dimensional vortex and the plasma of the sun. He watches as she passes through the outer edge of the explosion and saw what appeared to be two shadows of her separate and one is pulled away by a blue light before vanishing.

Second quote from Meeting of the Warriors towards the end.

In the other words, there are two Ira Pikes. One was pulled and the other free floated apparently to WG's universe as Assassin Guyver.

I believe Angel is Ira Pike. Possibly as a mind wiped agent of the Kregen with a stolen Omega class Kavzar unit. Even the Gen does not know why she is here. I think Sedah was created by the Gen to either capture or kill her.

What do you think?

Holy crap!!!

Angel = Ira from the Great War of the Guyvers universe?! That's pretty crazy if true!

[sonarelite]

I dont think Angel is Ira Pike cause I remeber in 7 days of hell not sure which story,

but its the one were warrior vamore is in human form standing watching a white guyver on the ark in a cryo statis tube,

then imakarum or kron comes in and wg vamore asks wat happens wen a guyver goes out of control and imakarum or kron says

" this is wat happens wen a guyver goes out of control " and points to the tube holding the white female guyver.

I could be wrong but this is my thoughts.

[guyverfanatic]

I dont think Angel is Ira Pike cause I remeber in 7 days of hell not sure which story,

but its the one were warrior vamore is in human form standing watching a white guyver on the ark in a cryo statis tube,

then imakarum or kron comes in and wg vamore asks wat happens wen a guyver goes out of control and imakarum or kron says

" this is wat happens wen a guyver goes out of control " and points to the tube holding the white female guyver.

I could be wrong but this is my thoughts.

Huh, I forgot about that one...

Could it be possible that were 3 copies of Ira? One in the GWOTG universe, one in the stasis tube in a Chronos HQ, and the last one possible being Angel? Well, it's a thought...

[Juggernought]

I dont think Angel is Ira Pike cause I remeber in 7 days of hell not sure which story,

but its the one were warrior vamore is in human form standing watching a white guyver on the ark in a cryo statis tube,

then imakarum or kron comes in and wg vamore asks wat happens wen a guyver goes out of control and imakarum or kron says

" this is wat happens wen a guyver goes out of control " and points to the tube holding the white female guyver.

I could be wrong but this is my thoughts.

I think what McAvoy was pointing out was that there were "2 shadows" that separated when Assassin Guyver (Ira Pike) hit the vortex....One of course remained as a guyver while possibly the Kregen took the essence or the "other" Ira Pike and transformed her into Angel. Which could potentially explain why she has these residual dreams of being pregnant.

The only other explanation i can think about is that perhaps her unit is picking up the anomalies that fight with the Atrahasis has caused.

[Sully]

Just in case you guys where looking some something from me on this plot, "no comment"

Can't be giving away the decent plots in the story now can I

[guyverfanatic]

Just in case you guys where looking some something from me on this plot, "no comment"

Can't be giving away the decent plots in the story now can I

That's what we were expecting from you.

[McAvoy]

I dont think Angel is Ira Pike cause I remeber in 7 days of hell not sure which story,

but its the one were warrior vamore is in human form standing watching a white guyver on the ark in a cryo statis tube,

then imakarum or kron comes in and wg vamore asks wat happens wen a guyver goes out of control and imakarum or kron says

" this is wat happens wen a guyver goes out of control " and points to the tube holding the white female guyver.

I could be wrong but this is my thoughts.

Huh, I forgot about that one...

Could it be possible that were 3 copies of Ira? One in the GWOTG universe, one in the stasis tube in a Chronos HQ, and the last one possible being Angel? Well, it's a thought...

Ira disappeared into the Vortex in Meeting of the Warriors story. So there is currently no Ira in the GWotG universe. So there are two. One is the original Ira and the other is the shadow or copy.

[Sully]

So there are two. One is the original Ira and the other is the shadow or copy.

Ummm hate to burst your bubble there, but would be impossible to say who is the original in the case of Dreadnought.

Also in his case he appeared long, long, long after the event of Meetings time line wise in the Great War. So it would be very possible that some other Ira could yet one day appear someplace.Or it could be the forgetful mega Guyver known as Angel, or she could have gone back in time or even forward or in what Universe, or if you look at Great War closely there could be something else your missing.... possibilites are loads with this plot.

[guyverfanatic]

So there are two. One is the original Ira and the other is the shadow or copy.

Ummm hate to burst your bubble there, but would be impossible to say who is the original in the case of Dreadnought.

Also in his case he appeared long, long, long after the event of Meetings time line wise in the Great War. So it would be very possible that some other Ira could yet one day appear someplace.Or it could be the forgetful mega Guyver known as Angel, or she could have gone back in time or even forward or in what Universe, or if you look at Great War closely there could be something else your missing.... possibilites are loads with this plot.

Man, I don't even know where to begin guessing...

[McAvoy]

I have an idea.

But food for thought practically everyone that was there at the final moments of atrahasis destruction was split into two copies. However if I am right then Ira would have been the only one to both go to WG universe as oppposed to being stuck in limbo in the GWotG universe the others returning back to WG universe.

I didn't mean there is an original and a copy. I meant it to make it abit clearer.

He'll Atrahasis could have been copied himself.

[guyverfanatic]

I have an idea.

But food for thought practically everyone that was there at the final moments of atrahasis destruction was split into two copies. However if I am right then Ira would have been the only one to both go to WG universe as oppposed to being stuck in limbo in the GWotG universe the others returning back to WG universe.

I didn't mean there is an original and a copy. I meant it to make it abit clearer.

He'll Atrahasis could have been copied himself.

Now if Atrahasis were to show up again... that would certainly be interesting...

[sonarelite]

oh oh Antahasis is Angel maybe this is why she's soo powerful...

[McAvoy]

No she is powerful because her unit is of Gen design from the WG universe. She is a Kavzar of sorts that the Gen actually recognizes as theirs.

I have a theory on who gave her that unit though.

[W'Kar]

Spoiler:

Atrahasis is really the mother of a swarm of half-kavzar/half Jy-Taki children. He got pregnant when Galactus bred with him after eating his world and now his clone spends his time raising the children in an orphanage between the dimensional folds.

[McAvoy]

Funny.

I wonder what certain SS would feel about that.

[OnyxPhoenix]

reads the spoiler of the last post

oh holy heck! lol! lmfao! that's just too good!

[Zoaknight]

Well, regardless of who Angel really is and where the two Ira's ended up, I hope we find out their respective fates soon, I always liked Ira and felt bad about how she lost her child to W'kar's wife & felt she had to keep the truth a secret cuz they didn't know how he'd react to the truth about his unborn child's origin (and as we all know, her kid has been twisted and turned by Anubis BIG TIME back in Ira's home universe).

Also, if there really are one or two copies of Ira, they may all be considered "the real Ira" rather than clones, time and space displacement and all that...Which of course will only make things more confusing for them and others if they all meet in one place someday.

Like, we know there are two W'kar's now, the one in the WG universe and the one who went crazy...er...and became Anubis. Now, clearly the W'kar who's hanging out in Jason's universe is more like the W'kar we all know and Anubis is the psychotic monster tyrant after his transformation, but technically both may be considered the real W'kar since they're not really clones but rather time displaced copies of one another...whew...Hope I'm making sense here

[W'Kar]

Indeed, you make perfect sense. They aren't clones... at least not in any normal sense of the world. Literal divergant copies.

Though I would argue that Ira and W'Kars kid is just as much Ira and Anubis child, perhaps more so than you realize.

[Zoaknight]

W'Kar wrote: Indeed, you make perfect sense. They aren't clones... at least not in any normal sense of the world. Literal divergant copies.

Though I would argue that Ira and W'Kars kid is just as much Ira and Anubis child, perhaps more so than you realize.

Oh trust me, I realize that since Anubis is as much the genuine article as W'kar that means Alexandra is just as much his kid as Greg's...Which really worries me based on what we've seen of her upbringing and its affect on her

Also, since Greg (WG's W'kar) is identical to the one who became Anubis that means he too has the potential to become like him if pushed hard enough...Anubis was born from the rage & despair he felt over Fighter Guyver's death, a trauma not so easily duplicated...But I can only imagine what Greg will do when he learns what Anubis has done to his friends, daughter, and wife

Not saying it will happen, but I suspect alot of people will be wondering the same thing when and if Greg makes it back home (might make things tense for him amongst the AAR & Kronos)

[Juggernought]

Think it's actually quite hard for WG's W'kar to become another Anubis he really has no ties to this universe other than Jason and now his sister . But those ties are still probably not enough to push him over the edge. All his hopes are the Kregen or something helping him to get back to his own universe after he has fun with the current one he's stuck in.

[Zoaknight]

I'm not implying that any events in the Warrior Guyver universe will push Greg over the edge, I'm saying that when he returns home to his own universe and learns whats become of the woman he loves, his friends, his brother, and his daughter at the hands of an evil version of himself, that may or may not push him over the edge...Well, we've recieved a preview of the Omni W'kar form planned for him, I'm just saying if he doesn't control his rage he could become another Anubis if he's not careful (and I realize restraining his temper isn't something he's great at)

[WarriorZoalord]

however, isn't there is still at least one more being from meetings that didn't show up yet? if i recall correctly, Cassandra was being held by Greg when the "shadows" were pulled away.... so wouldnt that mean that a copy of cassandra would also have ended up in this universe?

[Sully]

so wouldnt that mean that a copy of cassandra would also have ended up in this universe?

Well in the case of W'Kar and Dreadnought they didn't make their way into "This Universe". They ended up somewhere else completely. Both W'Kar and Dreadnought had access to tech that meant they could leave and go to "this Universe".

Question would be this. IF Cassandra was even copied. Where her copy would go and what point in time would be endless. Another thing would be if she was copied so could have being the unborn daughter.

[Zoaknight]

Dude, it hadn't even occurred to me that one of the Ira's still out there could be carrying W'kar's baby still! Or another version of her at least