Guyver Abilities Trivia

[*zeo]

How well do you know how the Guyver and its abilties work?

Basic rule of these tests, I let a few guesses before I give the official answer.

So here's the first question, exactly how does the Guyver Pressure Cannon work?

And is it (I'll make this part easy with multiple choice)...

A) A focused ball of kinetic/gravity energy...

B) A unstable mini-black hole...

C) A unstable wormhole...

D) A combination of all of the above...

Bonus Question... Why is it called a Pressure Cannon?

[guyverfanatic]

My guess is "A"!

[*zeo]

Nope, though that is how we originally saw it too but the translations, how should I put it, enlightened us to its true nature.

Besides, you didn't answer the rest of the question.

[Destroyer Guyver]

Iam sure the answer is D.

And for the bonus question, Its called a Pressure Cannon because it releases high pressure gravitational shockwaves when it detonates. (prays he's right)

[*zeo]

Pretty close, what's the answer to the first part of the question of how the Pressure Cannon works?

[xtro guyver]

The answer is C

Its called the presure cannon as it converts the wormhole into a gravational shockwave when released

[*zeo]

Okay, the full answer is the Guyver has gravity channeling organs that channel the gravitational energy from the Gravity Control Orb throughout the body.

For the Pressure Cannon this energy is channeled to the hands, which has focusing elements in the wrist that focuses the gravitational energy to produce a type of compressed virtual black hole, which shares some properties with certain types of theoretical wormholes.

The Pressure part comes from the evaporation process of the compressed virtual black hole that produces a shockwave around it as it travels to the target.

The target mass is thus smashed into by the pressure wave and the resulting displaced mass is sucked up by the virtual compressed virtual black hole and phased out of the continuum.

Thus the correct answer was D.

Officially the VDF translation by durendal states...

Gravity Cannon (Gravity Launcher)

An organ that launches a Gravity weapon - the Pressure Cannon. Through the stratified part of the wrist, the energy which is supplied by the Gravity control orb is gathered between the five fingers, forming a compressed Black Hole, a sonic boom is projected by the evaporation.

And the Booklet from the Anime states...

Pressure Canon: Energy supplied by the gravitational control device passes through the protuberances on the wrists and converges between the five fingers of each hand. This opens a microscopic wormhole, which when closed, launches a shockwave towards the enemy

There has been debate between the two since one describes a wormhole and the other a black hole but I believe it is describing a virtual compressed black hole that phasis matter out of normal space/time, making it essentially both.

The booklet also has the problem that it describes the wormhole collapsing and sending just a shockwave towards the enemy but a shockwave spreads out and doesn't stay in a ball like form. However others have argued with me because they believe the booklet is cannon even if what it is describing doesn't follow what we are seeing in either the anime nor manga.

The only way that description would work is if you assume the collapse occurred just before impact, then it could be an Ellis Wormhole, which is similar to a Morris-Thorne Wormhole except that time flows smoother and the mouth is completely spherically symmetrical. However Ellis Wormholes aren't considered valid by modern physicists but then again Takaya created the Guyver over 20 years ago. So it may be what he was thinking of even if it doesn't actually fit the original description in the VDF, and of course the Guyver doesn't have to follow actual real world physics.

Though it is possible the anime people simply misquoted Takaya but I got arguements with people over that too even though it is completely possible and has happened before. Like really has anyone ever heard a perfect dub of a anime?

Anyway, end of rant.

[*zeo]

Next question... Exactly what are the Mega Smashers and how do they work?

P.S.> Anyone who gets this right gets to ask the next question :

[McAvoy]

You wear a trenchcoat and then open it up to reveal the two big spotlights....

[*zeo]

Okay McAvoy gets the booby price.

Your very own Aptom pat down

[McAvoy]

Awesome... wait a minute...

I am going let other people answer tthe question. But it is obviously a energy storage capacitor of some sort.

[WarriorZoalord]

Well, when the chestplates are open, the Smasher cells start to charge and store energy to release a super-high output particle beam that is roughly 100megawatts in power.

[McAvoy]

100 megawatts of power is not alot to let you know.

[gelionlegends]

well just an assumption but would they be drawing the bio-energy from the guyver and like photosynthesis does with light to food for the plant, or like those fish like electric eels and glow fish stores and transforms the energy into light or electricity.

so the cells gather and change the energy into whats need to create the particle energy for the beam.

well thats my idea of they draw energy out side the body like the boost dimension before releasing it though then the creators would have ha this weapon then, so it must be from the host/users own bio-energy.

[*zeo]

Nope, energy comes from host body.

[gelionlegends]

then basically what i said about the cells converting the bio energy to what particle energy is, is about right or is there something else, that and it storing at the same time as it doesn't release the energy straight away when the plate is open unless it is made to charge before the plate is opened for it to be used.

[McAvoy]

They're storage cells that happen that they can focus and fire energy discharges.

[OnyxPhoenix]

Okay, here I go . . . .

If I remember correctly, going from the VDF that I saw from the original manga from way back when, the Mega-Smashers are the most powerful hyper-particle beam cannons ever recorded by Chronos. Again, by virtue of the Unit's ability to siphon energy from the boost dimension, and combine it with the energy gathered from the host, as well as from the environment as the cells charge up, gathering energy for the discharge, channel said energy through the soft cell lenses to amplify their power, and then fire it off. Additionally, firing one cell allows for better control and lesser charging time, but has somewhat lesser firepower. Of course, we all should know that by now. Also, I believe, the Unit's gravitational power is also utilized to contain the discharge and channel its power forward into the spiral blasts, rather than letting it blast outward in a much larger, expanding cone-shaped blast. That's my feel for it.

What's my grade, teach?

[*zeo]

Okay, close enough...

The full answer is the Mega Smashers are the Chest Armor Particle Beam Cannon, which fires a high energy particle beam that is officially stated as being able to deliver more than 100 Megawatt output, no matter what kind of materials will be disassmebled-eliminated. The lens body is usually fragile, but is usually covered by the chest armor.

This is one point that Takaya and I diverge, as 100 Megawatts would barely scorch an amry of zoanoids let alone vaporize them. I did the math the required energy to do what the Smasher is seen doing is actually equivalent to an atomic bomb or about 10 kilotons of TNT. But of course Takaya may have meant something like per square inch or something similar but the translation doesn't really say that and thus the confusion.

Anyway, the exact mechanics is the Chest armor is (mind you I'm giving you the official VDF version of this description) opened and the lens body is exposed. The size of the lens body is still compact in this state, but gradually expands as the growing charge of energy pushes the lens outward. Light is gathered at the center of the iris (note this just means it's glowing as the charge builds up-no external energy is ever drawn in). When the particles are all collected (mind you all it has to do is strip atoms within the cells of their electrons or similar subatomic particle to gather this-so still no need for anything external) and reaches a critical point, the smasher is launched/fired.

Ergo, it's a particle beam cannon and the power is derived from the host who happens to be supercharged by the bio-boost process that basically infuses the host cells with energy from the boost-dimension. In case you were wondering!

This is why the smashers can't be readily fired again as the energy has to be restored within the host body before it can again be channeled to fire the Smashers. So each Guyver really only has enough energy to fire both smashers once for at least several minutes before the Gravity Control Orb can restore the lost energy via the energy siphon of the Boost Dimension.

Gravity energy is thus the source of the energy as it is used to siphon energy from the boost dimension but it applies to the Smashers only in the Gigantic's Giga Smashers, which has a gravity control orb within each smasher cell armor chest plate.

Okay OnyxPhoenix, you can ask the next question?

[Shenzon]

Hey Zeo1234,

Sorry I'm late on this, I haven't had access to the net as of late but wanted to put my input in on the Mega Smashers before you answered. I was going to say that I've always thought they worked as such...

The chestplates are opened as bio-energy is collected from the host, stored and amplified by the gelatinis lens(I to have always thought that no outside energy was brought in, but what we all see on the anime and pics with the electricity and swirling energy bubbles, is the reaction from light and energy in our world reacting to the open and charging lens. Much like what we see with a crystal ball. The electricity that we all see within the glass is not an outside power source, but the result of the air within the glass, and the energy flowing over that small ball that's in the middle. Not to mention, it just looks cooler.). Once the energy peaks, or if the hosts has a need to fire prior to full charge due to threat of enemy or need to use what ever energy is collected, the energy is released. I've always thought some gravity energy was used to keep the beams from just firing in a cone shape but directly forward and spherical. On that note, I also remember reading within one of the Mangas, how Guyver one was able to focus the beam of one Mega Smasher into a fine beam when he was within a Chronos base with an ally...within the lower levels if I remember right to prevent doing alot of damage and alerting those within the levels above. That's also what made me believe gravity was used because I can't imagine anything else that would allow him to focus the beam like that. But the amount of power that is released explains why the hosts can't fire another blasts for some time until the energy is renewed. But I have a question for you Zeo1234. What would you say that material within the center is made of? I don't mean the lens, but that organ within the very, very center of the mega smasher is. Would you say it is an Amp or Storage organ of some kind? I always figured it was the outer organs around the center part that fired or released the collected energy with the center organ collecting and amplifying it. I'm assuming that their are more than one organs within the chest plates that makes all this happen....well enough ranting....sorry. I just find the Bio Amour fascinating!

[*zeo]

Hey Shenzon, welcome back...

G1 didn't focus the smasher beam, he held it back.

Basically he prevented the full discharge, which the building incident was actually the second example from the Manga.

Even then he vaporized an entire room full of bio-tubes, not to mention the group of Enzyme III's that was his actual target, and thinned the outer wall of the building by a good chunk and stopped the beam just before it would have gone through the outer wall of the building and out over the city.

Only the Gigantic utilizes gravity directly in the Smashers, which is part of why the Gigantic's Giga Smashers are 100x the normal Smashers.

The Smasher cell itself is what fires the beam, as it acts like a lens for the discharge. And the whole thing is the Smasher Cell, which basically replace the host lungs. Just think of it like an eye, working in reverse, and the mechanics of it become clear.

[*zeo]

Okay, apparently Shenzon doesn't have any questions for this topic...

So let's pass the time with a little fan fic trivia...

In a flat out race between WG and WG2, who would be even or ahead at each of these time intervals...

1) 0-5 seconds?

2) 5-15 seconds?

3) 15-30 seconds?

4) 30-60 seconds?

[WarriorZoalord]

I would say they would be even the whole way. unless of course its Matrix WG, then he'd be ahead the whole time.

[*zeo]

Nope, WG2 has his CPM's to boost his speed and WG has his gravity shield.

[WarriorZoalord]

Well, from what i remember of the other thread talking about WG Specifics....

A. tie

b. Tie until about 10 seconds, then WG.

C. WG

D. WG.