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  1. 5 points
    Game of Thrones fandom: Man, we have to wait SO LONG between seasons! Guyver fandom: Hold my beer.
  2. 3 points
    While we patiently and/or impatiently wait for the next chapter of the manga to be released, why not do what the MCU fan-base is currently doing with the lead up to Infinity War and re-watch the 2005 TV series?! Basically, re-watch one episode every week, then discuss it on here. Talk about what you liked, what you didn't like etc. We've gotta keep this board active somehow! All 26 episodes, followed by the 12-part OVA, followed by both live action adaptions... Then hopefully we'll have a new chapter in 40 weeks Episode 1: "The Amazing Bioboosted Armor" Original Air Date: August 6, 2005 Synopsis: Two police officers encounter and are killed by a strange man who is actually a Zoanoid created by the Cronos organization. The Zoanoid stole three Guyver units from the organization and is now being pursued by them. During a confrontation between Chronos troops and the Zoanoid named Malmot, the units are scattered through the area, where Sho and Tetsuro are. The two find the unit and Sho activates it, becoming Guyver I. And go!
  3. 2 points
    Enzyme's and acids are very different things. Enzymes provide a catalyst that break down certain substances that they are designed to attack either by accident of nature or by design of man. But Zerabubuth has shown his acid was capable of hurting a Guyver. The issue for a Zeamorph is that the chances of getting close to a Guyver so its blood will do any damage is pretty limited. What would be very dangerous though would be if a Xenomorph managed to gestate in a Enzyme 3. That then would be very devastating because the Guyver's easy to use quick weapons wouldn't do much against it's acquired healing abilities. Again though even that combo if hit full on by a Guyvers maga-smasher is dead. Be it single or double.
  4. 2 points
    After having not watched it over a year and all of the anime I've seen in that time....I can say this: this version of Guyver did not age well. I get that they had a lower budget than the rest of the anime scene, even if there were similar projects on the same level, but there are just some story aspects in just the first episode that do not belong there at all. Malmot being the main point as stated by everyone else, and then there's the opening scene that painted a false set of expectations for the audience (seriously, Cronos didn't thrust the world into a post-apocalyptic setting as we see at the end of the anime series). In any case, later issues that popped up are not as apparent in the first episode, but still it's still mediocre animation at best.
  5. 2 points
    I like your reviews because it makes me feel like I am not alone. I am sure I have watched this whole series before but I don't remember clearly. watching it this time, the series is WEIRD. I tried to compare it to other anime and I just can't seem to find a match. the pacing, the sound, the content of it, just feels incredibly vacant. I was thinking it is possible that it is Allegory for Sho's life. we see him from near the start and is a bit of a douche to his dad. but then I thought.. this is suggesting that he is depressed and without focus in his life. the following scenes seem to reinforce that. it's not very tight though and I feel like it could be easily missed. Or I could just be wrong. I also felt like the characters were introduced very vaguely. Each time a new character was introduced I felt like it wasn't really clear who they are or if they are important. the music too, was absent for a lot of the time. the whole thing had this vacant ethereal aspect to it that was neatly topped off with the stoned woman talking at the end for the next episode preview. The monsters were quite well drawn but I agree there was a lot of missing animation for the first episode. it's supposed to make a good impression and I think it fell short.
  6. 2 points
    Absolutely not because it wasn't a very good adaptation. I've actually spent the last few weeks re-watching numerous Guyver clips (gotta stay interested somehow!), mostly of scenes that have been adapted numerous times into anime and the 2005 series ALWAYS misses the mark. I can't actually be bothered to watch the whole of the first episode of the 2005 series but I watched the key scenes earlier this week and while, yes it's well drawn (most of the time), everything lacks punch and emphasis. The changes to the manga don't offer anything positive to the narrative or watching experience. Turning the truck driver into two police men makes for a fess interesting situation, and even though the driver was an asshole in the manga you could at least relate to the fact that he was just a guy in the wrong place at the wrong time. Making Malmot a family man was also completely uninteresting because it wasn't developed - why should the viewer care about this guy when all they've seen from him is the murdering of the two police men? He was more pitiful in the 12-part OVA just by having him talk to Agito on the phone at the beginning of the episode. Malmot's transformation is done okay, and he's actually drawn extremely well, but Gregole's transformation lacks any emphasis. It looks like they just didn't want to go through the effort of making it more dramatic so they have him transform far from the camera so they could skimp on the details of it. Same thing goes for their fight - I can only imagine they didn't want to go through the effort of animating the arm wrestling match so instead we get... basically nothing before Malmot blows himself up. Out of Control's fight on the other hand is unbelievably well animated for something that came out 30 years ago. Removing the arm wrestle completely ruins the setup for the wrestle with the Guyver; the power scale from Malmot - Gregole - Guyver is less evident. Sho bonding with the unit is slow and lacks the dynamism it had in the 12-part OVA. The fight with Gregole looks amazing and thank goodness they kept the arm wrestle this time but what is with Gregole aiming his punch to the side of the Guyver's head? I imagine it's supposed to represent the Guyver dodging the punch but he doesn't move at all. And the finish of the fight also makes me feel like, once again, they just couldn't be bothered to animate the Guyver's last attack, so creating that moment of suspense was the easy way out. I appreciate it must be an absolute nightmare animating Guyvers and Zoanoids but if they got it right 30 years ago pre-digital animation then there's absolutely no reason they shouldn't be able to do it now. If the budget was too tight then they may as well have not done it at all. Maybe it's just one of those series that needs that 80s/90s anime grit to work. The English voice acting is also pretty bad - the delivery is often flat and the quality difference between the JP and ENG acting gets pretty bad in some parts of the series. (For the record I'm not always opposed to english voice acting - FMA has a great dub). But this is a more general criticism rather than being directed to the first episode specifically. That said, I disagree with you Maze on the soundtrack. It's not as good as the 12-part, but it's still pretty cool. I like the idea of this thread, I might play along for a little while but it's hard to stay entertained while watching this series. I would never recommend it to anyone wanting to get into Guyver - at least not until the last few episodes.
  7. 2 points
    I'm not the biggest fan of the 2005 version but I'm doing this for you, Guyver fans! Guyver TV series episode 1 review (Japanese language): I think right off the bat it was wrong of the series to tease/spoil both the conquest of Earth and Guyver gigantic at the beginning of the episode. We're talking about 2 really huge spoilers in the manga. I'm okay with them "modernizing" Guyver for a new generation, but I don't see why they had to change both the art style and the character's personalities. This is a problem for me because I want to be able to look at the main characters and say "oh hey that's sho fukamachi" or "look that's mizuki segawa", but these changes are having the opposite effect and they seem very foreign to me. I have to get used to them all over again, and I can't really have any familiarity with them once I cross over to the manga again. Enough bad stuff, how about some good news? While the animation may not be as fluid, I think the zoanoid and Guyver art is better and more consistent in this series. I would have liked a little more color, but all of the scenes with zoanoids and Guyver I were pretty good. The music's nothing special, but at least it had that "hero is coming to save the day" feel to it still. I think that's what matters most in this episode. So yeah, I think I'll be watching the series more for just enjoying the Zoanoid/Zoalord/Guyver stuff and sort of ignoring the situations of the main characters because they just feel different to me now. Was I too brutal? Should I be more positive in the next episode review?
  8. 1 point
    I like playing characters that can get up close and personal. In RPGs I usually play a monk / assassin character, so I like having agility on my side. I want to say that that's why I'd be based off Thancrus, but I'd rather have more defense capabilities and not be a squishy character. Maybe a skinnier version of Zencrebe, an agile/muscle hybrid hyper zoanoid that uses his entire body as a weapon.
  9. 1 point
    Ok a while back I did a which zoanoid would you be thread, based around which zoanoid you'd become if you were a normal human living under Cronos's rule. Now I'm putting forward this question but here's the catch... You pick must be based on you style of gameplay, be it RPG, Shooter, Fighting etc whatever's your poison. For me it would be Gaster. Heavy weapons, explosives and high damage out put are my bread and butter, even at the cost of my on safety when playing. My gaming philosophies are "destroy everything" and "A respawn without bringing down at least one foe is a life wasted". Thats not to say I'm a total nutter who just likes to blow anything up, well at least not completely. I apply my weapons with the skill any decent player would, I just happen to enjoy it and I don't let little things like "my well being" get in the way. And yes I'm the kind of guy who will blow himself up to bring his foe down with him. Turok - Dinosaur Hunter was were I got my taste for heavy weapons. Since then thats been my style for every shooter, heavy machine guns being an ok substitute if my proffered weapons aren't to hand. This also translates to most other games I play.
  10. 1 point
  11. 1 point
    I'm getting to the point of sending Yoshiki Takaya a clip of Striker's rap from the first Guyver movie. ...That's how bad this is feeling to me right now.
  12. 1 point
  13. 1 point
    This. While our datafiles may seem "official" in the way they are presented/written, some specifics on things may or may not be based on the situation of the story, rather than official source numbers. Unfortunately, a lot of information from "official" sources are just as much guess work based on other information from other sources or their appearances. IE we can guess how strong Powered Zerebubuth is based on info from normal Zerebubuth. It may not be 100% accurate, but it's likely the closest safe bet. So when we introduced him to our fanfiction ( long before the book/DF translations), we likely assumed that he got an overall power up across the board. And technically, we aren't incorrect, though the newest source material does not state anything about physical power, so the design may have just got new weapons. Even the "strength of 15 men" is almost irrelevant in terms of measurement until we are given a baseline for what Chronos considers "the strength of 1 man"
  14. 1 point
    Hard to believe. Zerbebuth was presented as the first Hyper-Zoanoid, and strength for strength definitely was inferior to the Guyver. In Zerebuth's first appearance, his physical strength is stated to be three times that of Gregole, ie 45 times that of an ordinary human; less than half that of the Guyver. Would his upgrade have more than doubled his strength? His upgraded form focused on special weapons, and the one time we saw him in action in the anime this consumed so much power he couldn't sustain their use for more than maybe a minute. Even Derzerb, a more advanced Hyper-Zoanoid specifically designed for physical strength by the greatest specialist, larger and heavier than Zerbebuth, at 60 times the strength of an ordinary person was notably weaker than the Guyver. The Warrior-guyver fanfic and a Deviantart account make for poor sources.
  15. 1 point
    Hmm, the Guyver Advocacy's translation of this datafile from the link above doesn't state anything about the strength level. I don't know Japanese, but it seams that the Japanese scan of the datafile doesn't have this info either: http://guyver-world.ru/temp/zerbebuthr.png Anime datafile also doesn't have this info: http://guyver-world.ru/temp/zerbebuthranime.jpg EDIT: Also there's this picture which is I believe is from the novel, where the Zerbebuth R was introduced for the first time. It does have some digits: http://guyver-world.ru/temp/zerbebuthrnovel.jpg
  16. 1 point
    Was giving some more though to this and oh boy. I looked at tanks from both Japan and America from 1985 and in to the 90s. Your average Gregole is lifting between 40 to 60 tons. Zerbabuth is 3 times stronger, meaning he can lift between 120 to 180 tons. To put that into perspective, the Hulk at his base strength is about 90 to 100 class. It gets even more shocking when you look at "Is Muscle" Derzerb. He's about 4.6 stronger then Gregole, his maximum strength potential is 276 tons.
  17. 1 point
    Well at least Miura is getting his crap together. One miracle at a time I guess.
  18. 1 point
    Ok I really like Fake Gigantic / The Branchai Brothers and I wanted to expand on their powers a bit. I don't mean make them anymore powerful then they were per say, but rather to give them more fake guyver abilities. Ok so basic overview... None of the Fake's basic stats change at all. Weapons: Fake Head Beam: A single, super high degree bio-laser fired from the gem on the forehead. Fake Pressure Cannon: Fires high explosive bombs from organic cannons on its lower wrists. New Weapons: Fake High Frequency Blades: Vibration blades made from bone and keratin making them the less durable then the those of the guyver. Blades maximum length is only half that of true Gigantic and have no flexibility. Fake Giga-Smasher: Two high output Bio-Lasers located either side of Beta's head. Destructive power on par with Aptom's when in Duel-Blast Mode form. Can be fired multiple times but high energy requirements make it ill advised to do this more then two or three times. Fake Sonic Buster: To combat high toxin build-up from "Giga-Smasher", Fake Gigantic can divert waste products special organs in Alpha and Gamma's sections. The waste product can then be expelled from the mouth of that area as an acidic slime. Fake Gigantic is able to support these weapons thanks to the combined bio-energy of the three hyper-zoanoids that comprise it. However it's still a pal imitation of the original. Edit: Due to having two weapons located in its forearms, Fake must reconfigure the internal structures of its arms each time it switch's. This prevents it from using both weapons at once. Most of this comes from a revamping of Aptom's Fake Guyver form I did a few years back but these additions actually seem more fitting on FG. Question: How physically strong is Fake Gigantic speculated to be?
  19. 1 point
    Guyver TV series episode 2 Review (Japanese language) To me the second episode of any anime is usually the deciding factor of whether I keep watching or drop it. While I think it's interesting that the TV series is trying out new ideas and things, I think it's not trying hard enough to be interesting to a new viewer that doesn't know what Guyver is and that is ultimately what it should be doing because Guyver is a classic old anime that is most unheard-of except for the fact that it was remade, at least in the eyes of a new viewer. I shall now refer to this Sho Fukamachi as "sho I do not know", actually maybe that's too long how about just "new sho". New Sho is different from the Sho in that he is very timid and has a lot of anxiety issues, possibly caused by the loss of his mother which we are not told is recent or not. In fact he doesn't seem like the kind of person you'd want to hang out with because he's always down in the dumps. But it doesn't matter because he is our main character, or at least he is supposed to be. The problem with episode 2 is that it focuses too much on tetsuro and Mizuki. This is new for both the OVA and the manga. In order to grab new viewers I think it's important to create a strong relationship between the main character and the audience at least in the first two episodes if not the whole series. It's hard for me to get behind a main character that is not shown. get it...not sho-wn? Okay I'll stop. We also get some glimpses of "new Mizuki" who seems to be just as depressed and anxious as new sho is. Good that makes them made for each other right? Because in the original manga both Sho and Mizuki were both lively and energetic people. But what I really don't like about new mizuki, is that she appears to be psychic in that she has the same expression on her face that all the other characters that know about Cronos have. She's supposed to be completely in the dark and she still is but for some reason, she always seems to have an oh my god really bad thing is going to happen soon face. I don't know why she has that face at all. Is the anime going to explain it, like they did with new sho's mother? Because maybe that would be interesti-oh okay it's not. Guyver versus Ramotith Well let's get to the meat and potatoes. At this point of the episode we haven't really established a relationship with new sho because most of the episode has focused on tetsuro, but now it's time for New Sho to take action. First tetsuro is grilled about the location of the Guyver which they had explicitly stated hidden itself in the lake. This should have been the the focus of the episode, the question is where is the Guyver unit right? Why does new sho have strange things on his back if the guyver is in the lake? And when tetsuro finds out that the Guyver is no longer in the lake, he's focusing too much on the fact that the people that kidnapped him are Kronos, which he should have realized by the uniforms they were wearing. His surprise should have been that the Guyver is no longer in the lake, not that they are Kronos! This then gives new sho the idea to ask the Guyver for help, and oh my God he's going to say it soon.... Get ready for it...*main character screams Guyver like a girl* what the fudging fudgepacker was that?! This is our new Guyver? Are you kidding me? No seriously are you kidding me? Ever since I was a kid one of the best parts of the Guyver shows was hearing the main character yell Guyver like a hero, and that was not a heroic scream. This is supposed to be a really big part of the show and they dropped the ball. This is supposed to be a signature staple of the show and they left it out. What were they thinking? Moving on. New Sho calls on the Guyver unit. The suit's explosion ate one of the Ramotith in half, guts and all, which was cool. I like that it shows the suit is Bulletproof and this is the first time in the series that they have explained how the suit works by showing the suit connected to the user's brain. For the first time we can see that the Guyver is actually able to see and think faster than normal humans and uses his head beam based on instinct to shoot down a bullet in mid-air. That was very cool, no objections that was very cool. Then Guyver fights Ramotith which is always fun to watch, and makes short work of them. Guyver vs Vamore Here is another very very very important part of the Guyver series. The mega Smasher. How large is the blast is and how long it shoots for is another very big staple for this series. Especially since later in the manga, Guyver I struggles with controlling the mega Smasher himself because it is supposed to be this uncontrollable blast that he can do nothing about. However, It only lasts for a couple seconds, they show the damage afterwards to give the audience an idea of what it did but there's just no forgiving laziness. Yes it was cool while the mega Smasher was warming up with the lightning and everything, but it just lacked the same impact as it usually does. And I think that's the key word for this episode....impact, in this episode, it didn't really have it. It just felt like an ordinary show and it doesn't have the passion of the original Guyver. A final note, I think it was a nice touch that they showed that makishima's Guyver unit was black and red, which explains why his suit is black and red. Why then is inspector Risker's Guyver unit also blue and pink like new sho's? Isn't it supposed to be gold and black then? Consistency consistency consistency! There is no freaking consistency! That wraps up my review of Guyver episode 2. I really wanted to enjoy this episode, but I had to make it clear that the second episode of an anime is super important because it's supposed to grab a new viewer's attention and I think it failed to do that. I think that it still does play to Old fans by showing new things that other adaptations did not but I also think that even that is handled in a clumsy way. This is why I constantly tell people that are interested in Guyver to watch the OVA instead of the 2005 series. The reason is because I fell in love with the Guyver series because of the OVA. If I had watched this 2005 series back then when I was 9 or 10 years old, I don't think I would have liked it as much today. Let me know if you like my style of review and I hope you look forward to next week's review of episode 3. - Maze
  20. 1 point
    Guyver Episode 2 The Secret Society of Cronos I've read over my last review and realised is seems...disjointed. Sorry its how my thoughts come out. A nice establishing shot of the MAX Pharmaceuticals. With that company name and tacky limousine, its clear Genzo is a man of undiluted arrogance. Synevite's voice actor is ok since he's really just a professional goon. Brando Austin as Genzo is... not bad... in terms of how his voice sounds. He fits the part of an arrogant businessmen but apart from annoyed all his other attempts at emotion feel forced. knowing that this is going to be the voice of my #1 favourite zoanoid.... . My goodness some of the backgrounds look so cheap, the character models really stand apart from them. The one good shot is of the lake. Here Tetsuro's investigation begins. I've said before that of the three original cast members he was the best equipped, mentally, to deal with the situation. Being the true "nerd" of the three this is the sort of stuff he loves and day dreams about. While the harsher, more real side of stuff will affect him just as much, he's got the best foundation to deal with it. He also knows how investigate whats going on, even if its only at an amateurish level. What I've always liked about these scenes and his character in general at this point is that he's also the first to be proactive about the situation. So all his scenes here are good, it just a shame his voice actor still sounds off. Natsuki's English voice actor is actually ok. As for the main caste, this episode really dose not show much growth for them. The still sound like competent amateurs, with Mizuki sounding the best. Sho lacks the proper emotion here. Brando apparently cannot do his Genzo voice and shout at the same time....oh dear..... You know its bad when the goon on the TV screen has more emotion. Enter Jason Douglas as Lisker. Some may not agree with me on this but I've always felt that the best voice acting in this series comes from key villains, the first being Jason/Lisker here. In one scene he's already put most of the cast to shame as his dialog feels far more natural. He dose not display quit the range he has now day, he's currently the voice of God of Destruction Beerus in Dragon Ball Super and the new movies, but he's still sound so much better then Brando/Genzo. Hell he's part of the reason I cam to like Guyver II so much. and for the third act of this episode we get to complete our triangle of villain voice acting. We've had the bad, Genzo, the good, Lisker and now the laughable with Vamor's Scottish accent. Ok this is not the first time a random Scotsman turned up in Guyver's English dub cast, but while the OVA's one was just for one scene and really is of meme quality here we subjected to what sound like a very bad, fake Scottish accent for 1/3 of the episode and it gets worse after he transforms, as his accent and delivery ruin any menace we should be feeling. Upside the episodes finale looks really good. Ramotith looks good and they actually go his name right! The Guyver looks f##king awesome. what great about this scene is that we get to see what the guyver can do in a short space of time with any over the top explanations. the first time I saw how the armour dealt with bullets my eye nearly popped out of my head as I only had the movies to go off. The introduction of the head beam is great and give us anidea of how the guyver's weapons function. The fight between Sho and the Ramotith is good, if short, but is a little ruined with bad voice acting forcing itself into the scene. It's such a shame what they have done to Vamor here. The model looks good, his blasts look good and the music is bloody awesome but its all undercut but his voice actor. Also it looks like we can add "I'm in a class of my own" to the zoanoids list of catchphrases. However from a narrative perspective and given how intelligent Cronos and it's agents are depicted (they way they entrap our heroes here and how they behave later is miles above what many villains get up to), Vamor comes of as a bit of a show off and a moron by not trying to blasting Sho the first time. There's no getting round this fact, the Mega-Smasher looks gorgeous is this episode. And Sho's voice actor seems to sound better with the voice filter? And we end the episode with the birth of Guyver 2 and shockingly Guyver 3 as well. Shame it suffers from a bit of bad line delivery from Synevite and the random us of the 3-D model of a unit in Agito's house All in all this gets another 3/5 but for very different reasons. There a quit a few highs in this episode but some very noticeable lows along side them. Chapter Comparison: Much like last time the episode follows the manga chapter is based on very closely but with scenes added in. Most of what's been added here is actually good, such as Tetsuro's investigation and Agito's activating of Unit. It just a shame that its dragged by some of the episodes poorer qualities.
  21. 1 point
    @Maze247365The Guyvers armour has been shown to be extremely resistant to anything short of Enzyme-type acid, your Zerbebuth example is a good one as going by what has been seen Xenomorph blood has roughly the same strength as what he fires from his horns so while a bit wont do much, enough in the right places will start affecting the Guyvers combat ability until they can heal. The vibrational blades would also be very effective as long as the Guyver is quick enough to keep any acid away from the base of the weapon. Xenomorphs getting into any of Chronos HQ's wouldn't happen unless they were allowed to, remember their security starts at "paranoid" and goes up from there. That said if some Facehuggers did get in and could infect processing subjects before they properly develop the link to the Zoalords you might have the start of a ZoaAlien problem especially if you throw some of the more powerful Hyper types and Lost Numbers into the chestburster mix. A Guyver/Alien crossover could be an interesting fic but the difference in power levels means you would have to get creative to make the Aliens a threat without having the story breakdown as soon as you apply basic logic to the situation.
  22. 1 point
    I've always wondered if the Acid from a Xenomorph could even really hurt the Guyver. Because the blood of Enzyme was corrosive to Guyver flesh, but was specially designed to do so. If normal acidic chemicals would have worked, there would have been no need for Enzyme to be so special. That would be the main factor here. But it is likely safe to assume that it might have some effect, but likely nowhere near as bad as the Guyver 1 vs Enzyme fight from the OAV. As for if a Xenomorph/Zoanoid hybrid could exist... In theory, if the Zoanoid remained in Zoanoid form, maybe the implanted Xenomorph might be based on the Zoanoid itself... but it also could just be a standard human based one if the Chronos Soldier never changes... OR it could change similarly to a Human/Zoanoid. I'm not familiar with the science behind what give the Xenomorph their body types... So it would depend on how the story writer wants it to. One of those grey areas where you can't really be right of wrong. But all that considered, if it were a Guyver vs standard Xenomorphs, the Guyver would have no trouble. Even against a Queen which is just essentially a bigger Xenomorph. Both would be very susceptible to all the Guyvers long/mid range weapons. The only one in question would be the HF Swords. As mentioned before, Xenomorphs would basically be very weak Zoanoids. So even most Zoanoids would stand a good chance 1 vs 1.
  23. 1 point
    A very interesting topic. How do you think the normal Guyver unit would fare against Xenomorphs born from humans? In terms of raw strength a xeno is weaker then an average power type zoanoid. At their strongest partials they have broken through steel doors at walking speed and ripped through light metals, however your average Gregole can lift a tank over his head. So in terms of a slugfest the Guyver will win just as easily. Xenos are fast enough to dodge gunfire and have pretty impressive reflexes, they have more weapons that their disposal then most melee zoanoids with their tail and inner jaw and they are a lot more intelligent and cunning then given credit for (until dark horse and then everyone else turned them into giant insects and continually downplayed this aspect). But all pales to the guyver, even their steal is undone by the guyvers senses. Simple put they pound for pound no more of a threat then a zoanoid except in one area, there acid blood. While is this is not some killer tump card, the guyver had been shown to be vulnerable to strong acids before. While this is easily gotten around, especially with ranged attacks, the acid blood makes it tricky for a guyver in melee combat as there punches and slashes are likely to create very messy wounds. The situation is akin to Agito's match with the Enzyme II, punching into their bodies resulted in him getting badly hurt by the enzymes within. How would Zoanoids fight the aliens? Average power type zoanoids as I've already said can lift tanks and tank normal gun fire, hell they can even survive point blank grenade blasts. In a one on one fight they will over power an average xeno, while some are will be at a speed disadvantage unless the alien gets a lucky hit in they just cant match up. That being said becuase of how fast they breed, the average drone talking about 24 hours or less to spawn, xenos could have numbers on their side if pitted against a normal task force. However even though zoanoid production was not as refined back then, Cronos still has enough zoanoids to match a full blown nest if need be. Also its not just average zoanoids, excluding Hypers, there are quite a few special weapon types that really tip the odds in Cronos's favour, Vamor being the easy example. However both the aliens blood and facehuggers will play their part to but the zoanoids still come out on top. What kind of threat would the queen be? The Queen is by far the most dangerous of her kind. They can grow as big as a Tyrannosaurus Rex, have the highest intellect of any known xeno type, tough enough to survive having a truck driven into them and strong enough to throw said truck off. But while she's powerful and dangerous she alone cannot beat a guyver or a properly equipped team of zoanoids. Guyver 0 single headedly beat an optimized T. rex which was said to have power on par with a squad of zoanoids, thats far more powerful then an Queen Alien. Do you think the Guyver/Zoanoids would be able to dispatch them easily or would the aliens have strength in numbers? Going by what I've said above, both the guyver and Cronos can handles an xeno outbreak. While it would not be curb stomp easy per say, its not exactly going to be challenging either, especially one they figure out the xenos abilities. The xenos would need a pretty huge number advantage to make up the difference. What if the Xenomorphs were to be born from Zoanoids, like for instance Enzyme, so even though the molecular acid probably wouldn't damage the Guyver unit, an enzyme xenomorph would level the playing field? Normal xeno acid is likely potent enough on its own to be dangerous to both the guyver and zoanoids. However in regard to the guyver, its healing abilities will quickly patch up the damage in time, as seen with Zerbabuth. Now hybridisation has a lot more benefits then that, if the xenos start breeding with zoanoid hosts then the game will quickly start to become a much more even playing field. Such xenomorphs would be very powerful indeed and likely prove a real threat to normal zoanoids, though this would likely result in Hypers being called in. I'm not shore how Xenoids and Hyper Zoanoids would match up, while there power might be enough give the Hypers trouble, Xenoids would lack their special abilities. Xenoids would be more of a challenge to a guyver but not something they could not overcome unless there were a swarm of them. An Enzyme Based Xenoid would likely be a pretty nasty foe for a guyver given that early Enzyme's could rival hyper zoanoids in power. Zoanoid Xenomorphs? A Xenolord... such a wonderful concept. However the Zaocrystals may be a factor here. Like the control metal, they prevent a zoalord from being absorbed by Aptom. So they potentially could function as a counter to xeno embryo implantation. I hope there are also some Aliens fans here and I'm not just wasting your guys time lol. Oh there's a few of us, nothing wrong with loving two franchises that revolve around squiggle, slimy things latching to people faces.
  24. 1 point
    Xenomorphs would be very little threat to a Guyver unless hive-level numbers were involved and even then the mega-smashers would solve that problem. From the Guyvers perspective the Xenomorph is basically a weaker Enzyme type so while the acid blood would be a problem they could be dealt with using the head laser and sonic orbs for the most part, not even the Queen could stand up to a Guyver that was actually gunning for it. ZoaAliens/Xenoids would be a whole different problem depending on if Zoaforms can be infected, (and more importantly if the Zoalords would allow them to be without commanding them to die) assuming they can then the hybrids would vary widely in threat based on what Zoaform they were born from and the degree that the Xenomorph can integrate and/or magnify its host strengths and abilities. Overall the Xenomorph is dangerous but simply not equipped to deal with something like a Guyver and adding Chronos into the mix only stacks the deck against the Hive further as they could easily capture individuals for study and start engineering acid proof Zoaforms or just have the Zoalords blast the hive.
  25. 1 point
    Just because we all love Guyver doesn't mean we can't be critical of it! Even if you were the only to dislike it I doubt anyone here would've given you a hard time for it.
  26. 1 point
    Yeah, Matt's right. The problem is the creator is too busy/lazy to draw anymore chapters. It's sad but he's human after all. we all lose interest in stuff from time to time. maybe this long-ass break is allowing him the room he needs to get excited about his creation again. Or maybe not. Who knows? My beef has never been the break to be honest. What annoys me about the hiatus is Takaya's silence on WHY he's not done drenn in so long. He owes it to his fans to at least say something on the matter. He doesn't need to go into any details. Just a simple "Hi guys, sorry about the break. I'm alive and well and look forward to releasing more chapters as soon as I can" kinda thing would be all that's needed to put the minds of his devoted fanbase at ease. That's all. Yet he hasn't which, to me, is just plain unprofessional.
  27. 1 point
    I once wrote that "Warren Ellis is an arrogant man; he has much to be arrogant about". His bibliography has its own Wikipedia page, and includes such titles as Transmetropolitan, Global Frequency, Stormwatch and its successor The Authority, the Black Summer/ No Hero/ Supergod 'Trilogy' and many Marvel titles, including Ultimate Fantastic Four, the Ultimate Galactus trilogy, Newuniversal, Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E. and of course the Iron Man story 'Extremis'. Ellis could do no wrong; he was practically the exemplar writer of the new Dark Age from after 2000, with ultra-violent heroes featuring in superdecompressed stories depicted in cinematic, hyper-realistic artwork. So when we - the fans - heard he was going to be writing 'Iron Man', we were very excited. Ah. 'Extremis' was indeed a mold-breaking story which can be viewed as a threshold between old and new, in a sense; nothing really was the same after it, although this might also be for a different reason which I will cover in the next entry. But in any event, it was completely new, not in the last place thanks to the unique artwork of Adi Granov. Unfortunately this same artwork was also the reason this six-part story arc, the only six issues Warren Ellis ended up writing for Iron Man, took eighteen months to be finished from the first issue to the last. The story is simple enough. Tony gets a call for help from Maya Hansen, an old scientist friend of his. She explains that a project of hers - a super-soldier formula - was stolen; soon it turns out the formula was used by a right-wing terrorist group, who then turn one of them, a man named Mallen, into a superhuman. He attacks an FBI office in Texas, killing dozens with his new power. Iron Man flies out to confront the terrorist, but is defeated and severely injured, while his opponent gets away. Tony reveals he is Iron Man to Maya, and convinces her to use her super-soldier formula on him, to save his life and allow him to face the terrorist on equal footing. This he then does, defeating Mallen who forces him to kill him; and in an ironic coda, he has Maya arrested. He reveals he realized she deliberately let her formula fall into the hands of the terrorists, so that its effectiveness would be publically proven and her funding would be continued. The themes of the story are both simple and serious; what happens if a super-powered human interacts with the real world of ordinary people? What would such a superman do? What if the superman were not a hero, except by his own lights, but a murderous villain? And what about the march of science? The advances of science are always - by definition - ahead of the moral assessments thereof. Warplanes were deployed little more than ten years after the Wright brothers built the first practical aircraft. The first application of nuclear power was the atomic bomb. Maya Hansen argues that she did not intend to create a weapon, but that she needed military funding to further her research. Tony Stark is afraid that he's still that man - not the 'Test pilot for the future', Ellis' own description, but the weapons-maker, the ammunitions dealer. Mallen is the very embodiment of the fear that our technological advancement dramatically outpaces our moral development. And yet, he was a monster created by society; he grew to hate the government because his right-winger family was killed in a shoot-out with the FBI. He wants to use the tools of the future to force a return to the ways of the past. Stark is also confronted with that fear during an interview with John Pillinger, an investigative journalist who has made it his life's work to reveal hypocrisy and deceit, to pull the lid off the world's cess pits so everybody can smell the horrible truth. Pillinger (Actually John Pilger, a real-life journalist) calls Tony a 'ghost of the twentieth century', because the consequences of his actions are still haunting people years after he changed from an arms dealer into the inventor of the future. All in all, the story, while very violent in places, is quite reflective and thoughtful for an Ellis piece. I called the story a 'threshold' ; in fact it is almost a reboot and might, in fact, have been intended as such. Ellis admitted he had (deliberately) not read an Iron Man story except for the very oldest ones, and he is the very first author who re-wrote the origin story completely. No longer was Tony Stark injured by a booby trap in Viet Nam either during or after the war, but rather in Afghanistan during the American invasion of that country. It was ballsy, but in retrospect I almost wish more authors had gone with this; Marvel, unlike its counterpart DC, has never had a true 'Cold Reboot', instead opting for a shifting timeline which actually moves ahead through history in the context of the story. While I view the story, while simple, as quite strong, I remember being disappointed back in the day. I had hoped for so much more. But still, Ellis had recast Iron Man for the 21st century, and whatever else came after, would have to contend with what he had done. Even so, another event would have much more radical consequences for Tony Stark... *** On a side note, the comic - and the art style - would profoundly influence the Iron Man live action movie, which came out three years later. Scenes and situations were lifted almost directly from the pages of the comic, while the concept and some of the characters were later used as the basis for Iron Man 3.
  28. 1 point
    Ah what the heck, I'll tag in for this to. I'm going to be review this as I go through the episode. Guyver Episode 1: The Amazing Biobooster Armour. Watching it now I'm 50/50 on the intro. On the one hand is kind of a massive spoiler, especially for first timers, to show that the bad guys are going to take over the world. You now have that information hanging over the entire series which dose pull the rug out of the narratives tension as the story progresses becuase while you don't know how things got this way, you know they will. This undercuts the surprise at the second story arc's beginning to. On the other hand, one of guyvers biggest issues is that its opening arc is very much a monster of the week style story. While its done better then virtually any version of that I can think of (and I'd explain my view point on this as we go through) this can be a turn off for new comers or at least put them in the wrong mind set, especially if they are jaded or cynical to the idea. This at least gives them a taste that there's more going on here then "bad guys send random monster to fight hero". Guyver dose a good job of getting this across anyway, the OVAs doing the best, but I do feel that due to the way this series portrays the first arc this little taster just helps it get the point across. Also from someone like myself, who had watch the OVA's and movies but was totally ignorant of both the manga and rest of the story, this was pretty dame awesome to see after years of nothing and really got my mind going. While I never thought about it much back in 2005, due to the fact that I'd kind of fallen out of the anime circle for a few years, this show dose come off a cheap looking, especially early on. While not terrible by my personal standards, this series defiantly has the weakest animation out of the three, even compared to the original "Out of Control" OVA. However its not the only one, about this time both Mermaid Saga and Demon Lord Dante came out and both were of similur quality, so it seems like a number of old properties were getting shows done on lower end budgets back then. Malmots opening scene is not bad. It's creepy and unlike the truck driver from the original story I actually feel sorry for these poor cops. However it lacks the true horror and shock other portrayals of this scene have. Having Malmot not transform proper is just weird, I don't really see the point of hiding the fact he's a zoanoid. Especially after the intro. While I don't mind it to much, I never really understood some of the changes made to the casts designs. I can only guess it was done to modernise the show but it seems a bit pointless in hind sight. Upside I'm really happy we get to see Sho and his father together from the start, Fumio is such an important character in the second arc and it really helps the story as a whole to have him and Sho interacting as early as possible. I have to agree that the cast sounds a bit wooden at this point but Chris Patton and John Swasey were ok picks for the characters I feel. Luci Christian is a pretty good pick for Mizuki and sounds ok but she's clearly lacking the experience she has now days. She's currently doing a great job as Nami in One Piece. On the flip side whoever is doing the voice for the council member reading out the agenda makes me want to stab pins in my ears. Of the main caste so far Brian Jepson as Agito is probable the best. Lowell Bartholomee as Tetsuro is not bad but something about his voice sounds.... off. The confrontation between Malmot and the Chrono Solders feels rushed or at least to short. They try to compensate by telling us that Malmot has a family but it really dose not make me feel as sorry for him in this version. All his counterparts seem so broken and desperate that its genuinely heart-breaking to see him beaten down then resort to suicide. This version just lacks the same gut punch. His cold blooded murdering of innocent cops make me less sympathetic to, yes his reasons are the same but his attack on the truck driver always felt more justified, especially in the manga. While the scenes fly by the goons, Malmot and especially Gregole all look fantastic but again the transformations and reveals just lace the proper spectacle. Sho's bonding with the Guyver, while not bad per say, dose lack the impact other versions of this scene do. This is all again due to the break neck pass we are moving at and the shows lower budget. However I do find it interesting that in this version Tetsuro genuinely shoulders some of the blame for Sho becoming the Guyver. Guyver 1's reveal suffers from the same problem I mentioned above, its to fast paced and its given none of the spectral and atmosphere is should. That being said the Guyver looks pretty great and the actual fight with Gregole is not bad either. Now there's no getting round this point, the 2005 anime is by far the tames version of Guyver. While it dose not shy away from a little blood, it far from the ulta violence the franchise is known for as we don't see Gregole get his head pulverised (Your can is packed tunaman!). For the ending I'd just be repeating myself, its ok but again the speed the story is moving at prevents it from having the proper build-up and atmosphere it should have. As for music and sound effects, all pretty ok but nothing to stand outish. For an over all score I give this a 3/5. I'm being lenient as this was the first episode and everyone's just getting started. While it was great for guyver to come back looking at it objectively is a very "average" way kick off the series. While there's nothing out and out bad, the animation is what it is, there's nothing really great about it ether. Manga Comparison: In a way this stays pretty close actually. While 33 pages long, the opening chapter of Guyver is pretty fast past in its own right and Episode 1 actually has more happen. However the manga's art style dose a far better job at setting the mood for the key scenes of the story. Also while the added scenes allow the episodes narrative to flow better, ironically this takes time away from key scenes making them feel rushed and less dramatic.
  29. 1 point
    You raised my hopes slightly there! It was to be expected, though, I guess.... As long it finishes in my lifetime, I would love to see an end to the series.
  30. 1 point
    Just dropped by the book store on the way home today and YES!! .....there is no Guyver chapter. You're welcome.
  31. 1 point
    I always assumed that he didn't know. He was using Sho as a test subject for everything. Thus why he only intervened when it was for his own benefit, but ended up watching a lot of the time. In his mind, there was likely 3 ( or more) options of what could happen: 1. No longer functions. No more competition, and I need to be more careful 2. Unit reforms as a unit. Wooo! Free unit! Can give to a pawn/loyal supporter. 3. Guyver 1 revives. Not only does he gain a pawn, but proves to him that he is also practically invincible.
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