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As the title suggests, if one of the guyvers were to die suddenly whilst the unit was disengaged, what do we think would be the outcome? I don't recall any material to suggest what may, or may not happen.

 

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I think somewhere it was mentioned that they had to keep the unit host alive and retrieve the control medal or it would be forever lost is they perished while not activated. There is no known way to get it from the alternate dimension it is in without the host calling it that I am aware of.

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No idea. The unit could automatically activate once the host is near death or the unit doesn't. If the unit doesn't then it will be forever lost as obviously the host would not be able to call upon it.

Only situation I can think of that is similar is the fatal blow he took from Aptom. It was Sho who was able to activate the unit even near death. 

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I don't think that would ever happen. The unit almost seems to possess a mind of its own since it can interact and work with its host. Much like the scarab does for the Blue Beetle (DC comics superhero), only without talking to the host. So maybe without being called verbally if the unit and the host have adapted perfection (in sync), the armor can be engaged just with a mere thought wave. We know so far that if the unit doesn't adapt perfectly to its host it will result in what happened to Lisker. Where the body almost shuts down completely and simply stops functioning. And we also know for a fact that if the Guyver unit can regenerate it will regenerate its host, entirely from its control medal. Like it did with Sho back in the Cronos HQ in Japan. So even if the host of a Guyver unit were to die it's almost certain that they will not die, due to being regenerated at the hands of the units' internal system. It seems to work like a parasitic relationship the way it's connected to a host. While a human can survive without it, the unit is the only thing that can't function without a host. Actually now that I think about it, the unit sort of reminds me of what venom and Carnage can do when they acquire a host. The only difference is that the host can remain in control. Though If I remember Correctly the armor can takeover the host completely either during a fight or when regenerating. Back when Sho first activated the unit he was taken over by it and didn't even remember what he did to those Cronos soldiers. I believe he also had the same experience when he fought his father. Killing him without even realizing it, and then as a precautionary method the armor blocked out the memory of what happened from Sho, since it probably knew of the relationship between the two. Even back during the attack on the Cronos HQ when Guyver 1 regenerated he went on a small killing rampage before breaking through a wall to Tetsuo, only to find a naked and revived Sho underneath the armor. Well that's just my two cents on the matter but I would certainly say it's possible.

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It's unknown if the unit will activate if the host is killed before they could call the armor but it has been theorized that it would as the unit is partly integrated into the host.  The most obvious sign of this are the organisms on the host back that provide the actual link to the unit and also allow the host to communicate with other Guyvers even when the unit is not active.

 

The organism itself is suppose to be a parasitic life form that the Creators discovered eons ago before they came to Earth... The Bio-Boost in its name suggest it can naturally Bio-Boost and explains how G1's forearm was able to grow into a clone monster of Sho with no additional mass and the parasitic nature was demonstrated when it tried to absorb G1...

 

The CM, however, controls the organism and turns it into a symbiote... preventing the organism from consuming the host completely and instead merges and modifies the host for the Guyver form.

 

The CM does have its own limited A.I. that the anime suggested is integrated to the host mind enough to react to friend and foe responses, as shown when the unit saved Tetsuro from a bullet and vaporized it in mid-air... a feat that would require precision and speed far beyond Sho's... But this link is also why Elegan shocking the CM resulted in the unit being deactivated because the shock also shocked the host brain that is linked directly to the CM...

 

While there's the not so clear example of when Sho was mentally blocked from activating the unit, after having realized he had killed his father in self defense mode, but when his life was endangered the unit activated long enough to save him but the moment he realized it had his mental block re-established and De-activated the unit...  Meaning the unit either self activated or simple instinct was enough and a dying brain may still cause that kind of trigger...

 

So it's possible that even as the host is dying it can still be called but it's also possible that any interference between the unit and the host... Such as trying to cut out the organisms on the back, or equivalent, would also result in the unit activating as that falls under the unit protecting itself and its host...

 

But that is speculation until we see that actually shown in the Manga...

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On 6/13/2016 at 7:52 AM, Gazham said:

As the title suggests, if one of the guyvers were to die suddenly whilst the unit was disengaged, what do we think would be the outcome? I don't recall any material to suggest what may, or may not happen.

 

Well. I guess seeing as it was never covered in the anime or the manga. I'm sure that it hints that the host and the unit are both screwed.

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I would think if a host took a bullet to the head or some other forms of immediate kill the unit would be lost as the host would not have had time to activate it.

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I think there is a good chance that the bio booster armor may attach itself to it's host when the host is killed when in human form.  I am basing this on the organisms on host's back, seeing as that is what connects the host to the bio booster armor.  When it is stored in another dimension.

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The growths on the host's back that communicate with the unit make me think that their death would trigger some kind of emergency reaction. They're the host's connection to the unit, and they never go away unless the host is separated from the unit with the Remover, as far as I can assume.

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 @JCAsher I agree 

When Sho was fighting Aptom and couldn't call the Guyver during the fight, the Guyver unit engaged right when Sho was about to pass out/die?

Somebody tell me?

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30 minutes ago, Uberchalice said:

 @JCAsher I agree 

When Sho was fighting Aptom and couldn't call the Guyver during the fight, the Guyver unit engaged right when Sho was about to pass out/die?

Somebody tell me?

It's not that strait forward.

Sho at the time was still subconsciously repressing the Guyver due to it killing his farther in Self-Defence Mode. It activated because Sho had to get passed his hate of the guyver and his own self loathing because he needed it's power to save Mizuki.

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