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how much is your art worth?

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I thought you guys might find this interesting.

 

 

Anonymous asked: $100 is a lot of money for a single page.

answer: how much is a loaf of bread? hm? $3? $5?

        At my local grocery store, bread is about $4.50 for a decent size italian loaf. If I make $7.25 and hour, that means I’d have to work 37 and a half minutes for a Loaf of bread.

        but hey, that’s not so bad right? Work two hours and you’ll have a sandwich, eh?

        Oh hey, turns out I also need toilet paper, rice, chicken, some veggies, a can of soup, and some cereal. (to name a few basic groceries one might need on a budget) we’ll round those things down to $25 just to make the math easier.

        at $7.25 an hour I’ll have to work about 3 and a half hours for basic groceries.

        That doesn’t include bills or gas or all the other groceries I need, That’s ONE quick trip to the store and I already have to work half a day just for that.

        You don’t understand Anon, my pages could take HOURS if not DAYS. Between the sketching, inking, colouring, lettering, and finishing it’s taken at least a full two day’s work if not longer for each page.

        I have a job that pays me beans, I cannot afford to post more pages a week without compensation. I literally cannot afford to do that. Not to mention the idea that art is only worth minimum wage cheapens the amount of work and effort that goes into producing it. I should be making WELL ABOVE minimum wage for my art via page count and commissions but it’s this damn “deviant art†mindset that makes people feel like they’re being swindled for paying a livable wage to artists. It’s rude and childish and I ask that you please stop considering artists as less worthy of affording a normal life.

        You can either pay me what I ask for what you want or stop complaining about what I already give you for free.

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I cannot smegging stand people who tell illustrators that something they produce is too expensive.

Yall mothersmeggers want cheap? Go get some paper, get a smegging pencil and then draw it your mothersmegging selves because nobody freelancing on the internet who hasn’t even half made it in the illustration world is charging you ANYTHING close to industry pricing even when some of us are as good if not better. Why? Because of people like Anon. Your name must be out there and known to charge anything close to what your time and skill is worth. Yet still? You are paying for my effort, my time, my blood, sweat and tears and a lifetime of learning my trade.

A cheap page for yo ass is a piece of paper I haven’t touched yet.

/rant

(As a freelancer I cannot staaaaaaaaaaaaaand people who pull this dogshit.)

 

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Very nice find Yuki, it makes me take things into perspective and value more my own work when I finally decide to start selling my art, I will need to see how much I should charge when I start based on my current skills.

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who said what?

I quoted a post I found so are you addressing Odin?
Perhaps you could clarify?

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It was an old discussion, and yes I was addressing you, Ryuki. It was a project we started back in May 2010; my mom asked for donations of $5 from all of the participants for the quilt that she was going to sew together out of the fabric-swatches and printed patterns. You weren't particularly enthusiastic; Mom had to explain things to you, as I recall.

 

I'm glad you've gotten a new perspective - for future reference, quotes without any opposing commentary are generally taken to mean that whoever's quoting them tacitly approves of the sentiments being expressed - I just wonder if it extends to textile art, as well.

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As I recall, around that time, when the idea was mentioned, it was presented as a gift, a voluntary activity between friends to give as a gift to the author.

I don't require payment from all of you guys to run the guyver advocacy project and neither does durendal or bbdude or lost unit or aether or super existence, so I really don't think it's fair to talk like that.

At the time, I saw it as pretty shady, to first suggest crafting a gift for somebody and then asking people for money. Now maybe it's a culture difference or something, but that was my view, I'm entitled to my view and I think bringing up something like that now is a pretty unnecessary attack.

 

for the record, I don't have a new perspective. when a person offers to do a good deed for another person, and then asks for money, that is pretty shady. That's like helping an old lady across the road and then asking her to pay you. if you stand there with a sign saying "helping old ladies across the road for $5" then that's offering a service, but in my book, you don't ask money for a good deed done.

if the suggestion for a quilt was originally presented as something we'd all donate to and chip in together for, then nobody would have complained. it's the way the 'invoice' was presented at such a late stage. it was presented as a good will gesture and then after everyone was bowled over by the kindness, it got transformed into a business transaction. that, to me, was shady as hell.

honestly, I hadn't thought about that for a very long time and I regret it being brought up. I don't want to have to think things like this. I don't hold grudges and I never judged anyone for something from years ago.

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The price of art doesn't matter what the artist thinks it's worth really. I'm sorry to the artists but it's true. Art is like most other things in the world, it's really only worth how much someone will pay for it. Yes, that is a very pragmatic view and sure the supplies used to make the art might cost more than what the final work is sold for but in the end, if someone doesn't buy it, you can have the prettiest pieces on the wall or sculpted and they don't mean a thing. I do appreciate that for some works you are paying for the skill of the artist not the materials.

 

With my comments I'm not saying that the art shouldn't be worth more, just that sometimes, it's not. So Odin, if you are going to sell artwork, you might want to test the waters first and find out if there is a market for your work. I know that in my country we have a lot of art shows devoted to 'new artists' where they can display their work in larger galleries and in conventions for lots of people to see which may give them a kick start. But generally it's hard to make a full time living as an artist even with the govt grants we have.

 

A slightly different example may help. Tapestry or cross stitch - which I am familiar with - you can buy them on ebay - completed works. Believe me the cost of them, even at $500 is NOT worth the time of the stitcher. Those things take DAYS to complete and while I appreciate I'm not the fastest stitcher, I'm not that slow so I know how long it took me to finish one and yeah the price they want on Ebay, is not the price they are truly worth but that's all that they will sell for - and often they won't even sell then.

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