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Oh awesome! I'll give it a go tomorrow unless durendal beats me to it :)

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é¥ã‹ãªæ˜” in the distant past

ã“ã®åœ°çƒã« to this planet

â€å½¼ã‚‰â€ã¯ã‚„ã£ã¦ã㟠"they" came

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未ã ç”Ÿå‘½ã®èŒèŠ½ã™ã‚‰ãªã„ as yet there was no sign of life

原始ã®å¤§åœ°ã« on this primeval earth

â€å½¼ã‚‰â€ã¯ç¨®ã‚’æ’’ã "they" sowed seeds

環境を整㈠prepared the environment

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以後数åå„„å¹´ã«äº˜ã‚Š spanning billions of years from then

地çƒç”Ÿç‰©ã®é€²åŒ–ã«é–¢ä¸Žã—続ã‘㟠continuing to participate in the evolution of earth's creatures

â€å½¼ã‚‰â€ãŒå¿…è¦ã¨ã™ã‚‹ "they" needed to

â€å…µå™¨ã¨ã—ã¦ã®ç”Ÿå‘½ä½“â€ã‚’創り出ã™ç‚ºã« in order to produce "living beings as weapons"

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ã©ã†ã‚„らã“ã“ã¯

クロノスã«ç¸ã®ã‚ã‚‹å¤ä»£éºè·¡ã‚‰ã—ã„ãª

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sorry I can't do any more of this right now, the noise here is insufferable. I don't see why people can't just shut their damn trap, turn the telly down and stop throwing things around. :(

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No sign of life? Tens of billions of years??!

sorry, let me correct myself. several billion years. or billions of years.

i got mixed up and joined the kanji for 'numerous' with 'ten' and then read that ten with the 100million.

also, the no sign of life.... could be not yet even a bud of life, or life was not even germinated yet etc.

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CONTINUE:-

ã©ã†ã‚„らã“ã“㯠it seems like this place

クロノスã«ç¸ã®ã‚ã‚‹å¤ä»£éºè·¡ã‚‰ã—ã„㪠is ancient ruins somehow related to Cronos

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ã©ã†ã„ã†äº‹ï¼Ÿ what do you mean?

見ã¦ã¿ã‚ look here

鳥やケモノ bird beast

æ竜らã—ã„ã®ã‚‚æã‹ã‚Œã¦ã„る㌠dinosaur type things drawn here

ãれらã«æ··ã˜ã£ã¦ those are mingled together

見覚ãˆã®ã‚ã‚‹ã‚„ã¤ã‚‰ãŒã„ã‚‹ã ã‚ã†ï¼Ÿdo you recognise those guys?

ãˆã€‚。。 eh...

ã˜ã‚ƒã‚ã‚„ã£ã±ã‚Š then it must be

ã‚ã®æ€ªç‰©ã¿ãŸã„ãªã®ã£ã¦ã€‚。。 looking like those monsters called...

ゾアノイド。。。ãªã®ï¼ï¼Ÿ zoanoid... right!?

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é™è‡¨è€…ã®å®‡å®™èˆ¹ã¾ã§ æã‹ã‚Œã¦ã„るレリーフã ã‹ã‚‰ãª because the advents ship is depicted in the relief

ãŠãらããã†ã ã‚ㆠperhaps it is

ã‚‚ã—ã‹ã—ãŸã‚‰ã“ã®çµµã¯ by some chance this picture is

ã“ã®åœ°çƒã§ã®é™è‡¨è€…ãŸã¡ã® of the advents on this earth

実験æˆæžœã®â€ã‚«ã‚¿ãƒ­ã‚°â€ã¿ãŸã„ãªã‚‚ã®ãªã®ã‹ã‚‚㪠perhaps a kind of "catalog" of the experimental results

â€ã‚«ã‚¿ãƒ­ã‚°â€ã€‚。。ã£ã¦ "catalog"...

。。。ã§ã‚‚ã‚‚ã—ãã†ãªã‚‰ ...but in that case

ã‚ã®çµµã®çœŸã‚“中ã«ã„ã‚‹ã®ã¯ã€‚。。何 in the centre of the picture is... what

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it's late so I need to leave it here. this dialogue is tricky. very tricky.

I want to try and finish this tomorrow.

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century gothic. It's like I'm obsessed with century gothic. I use it for everything.

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COMPLETED!!!

é¥ã‹ãªæ˜” in the distant past

ã“ã®åœ°çƒã« to this planet

â€å½¼ã‚‰â€ã¯ã‚„ã£ã¦ã㟠"they" came

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未ã ç”Ÿå‘½ã®èŒèŠ½ã™ã‚‰ãªã„ as yet there was no sign of life

原始ã®å¤§åœ°ã« on this primeval earth

â€å½¼ã‚‰â€ã¯ç¨®ã‚’æ’’ã "they" sowed seeds

環境を整㈠prepared the environment

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以後数åå„„å¹´ã«äº˜ã‚Š spanning billions of years from then

地çƒç”Ÿç‰©ã®é€²åŒ–ã«é–¢ä¸Žã—続ã‘㟠continuing to participate in the evolution of earth's creatures

â€å½¼ã‚‰â€ãŒå¿…è¦ã¨ã™ã‚‹ "they" needed to

â€å…µå™¨ã¨ã—ã¦ã®ç”Ÿå‘½ä½“â€ã‚’創り出ã™ç‚ºã« in order to produce "living beings as weapons"

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ã©ã†ã‚„らã“ã“㯠it seems like this place

クロノスã«ç¸ã®ã‚ã‚‹å¤ä»£éºè·¡ã‚‰ã—ã„㪠is ancient ruins somehow related to Cronos

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ã©ã†ã„ã†äº‹ï¼Ÿ what do you mean?

見ã¦ã¿ã‚ look here

鳥やケモノ bird beast

æ竜らã—ã„ã®ã‚‚æã‹ã‚Œã¦ã„る㌠dinosaur type things drawn here

ãれらã«æ··ã˜ã£ã¦ those are mingled together

見覚ãˆã®ã‚ã‚‹ã‚„ã¤ã‚‰ãŒã„ã‚‹ã ã‚ã†ï¼Ÿdo you recognise those guys?

ãˆã€‚。。 eh...

ã˜ã‚ƒã‚ã‚„ã£ã±ã‚Š then it must be

ã‚ã®æ€ªç‰©ã¿ãŸã„ãªã®ã£ã¦ã€‚。。 looking like those monsters called...

ゾアノイド。。。ãªã®ï¼ï¼Ÿ zoanoid... right!?

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é™è‡¨è€…ã®å®‡å®™èˆ¹ã¾ã§ æã‹ã‚Œã¦ã„るレリーフã ã‹ã‚‰ãª because the advents ship is depicted in the relief

ãŠãらããã†ã ã‚ㆠperhaps it is

ã‚‚ã—ã‹ã—ãŸã‚‰ã“ã®çµµã¯ by some chance this picture is

ã“ã®åœ°çƒã§ã®é™è‡¨è€…ãŸã¡ã® of the advents on this earth

実験æˆæžœã®â€ã‚«ã‚¿ãƒ­ã‚°â€ã¿ãŸã„ãªã‚‚ã®ãªã®ã‹ã‚‚㪠perhaps a kind of "catalog" of the experimental results

â€ã‚«ã‚¿ãƒ­ã‚°â€ã€‚。。ã£ã¦ "catalog"...

。。。ã§ã‚‚ã‚‚ã—ãã†ãªã‚‰ ...but in that case

ã‚ã®çµµã®çœŸã‚“中ã«ã„ã‚‹ã®ã¯ã€‚。。何 in the centre of the picture is... what

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一番大ããæã‹ã‚Œã¦ã‚‹ã— it is depicted the most prominently

ãã‚Œã«ãªã‚“ã ã‹ã€‚。。 also seems like...

ã¾ã‚ã‚Šã®ç”Ÿã物ãŸã¡ã¯ã¿ã‚“㪠the creatures are all surrounding it

’ã‚れ’をæã‚Œã¦ã‚‹ã£ã¦ã„ã†ã‹ they are afraid of THAT, or rather

â€å´‡æ‹â€ã—ã¦ã‚‹ã¿ãŸã„ sort of "worshipping"

ã“ã®éºè·¡ãŒæœ¬å½“ã«â€ç¥žæ®¿â€ã ã£ãŸã¨ã—ãŸã‚‰ that means this ruin is really a temple

祀られã¦ã„ãŸã®ã¯ made to worship

â€ã‚«ã‚¿ãƒ­ã‚°â€ã®ä¸­å¿ƒã«ã„る’ã“ã„ã¤â€™ã  THIS GUY in the middle of the "catalog"

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ãã—㦠and so

ãŠãらããã‚Œã¯ã€‚。。 that is probably...

å…„è²´? Big Bro?

é¢¨ã  a breeze

石柱ã®é™°ã«ãªã£ã¦ã¦ã‚ã‹ã‚‰ãªã‹ã£ãŸãŒ I didn't realise that behind that stone pillar

部屋ã®å対å´ã«ã‚‚出入å£ãŒã€‚。。 on the other side of the room was another exit...

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å…„è²´ã‚ã®å…‰ã€‚。。 Big Bro, that light...

。。。ã‚ã‚ï¼ï¼ AH!!

å¤–ã  open air

外ã«å‡ºã‚‰ã‚Œã‚‹ãž!! We can get outside!!

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ã†ãƒ„。。。 uh...

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ç‘žç´€ Mizuki

ã©ã†ã‚„ら俺ãŸã¡ it seems like we

æ€ã£ãŸä»¥ä¸Šã«ã¨ã‚“ã§ã‚‚ãªã„所㸠more preposterous than I thought

æ¥ã¡ã¾ã£ãŸã‚‰ã—ã„ãž came to a place that is (I left these last two lines in Japanese order. you should probably swap them)

Guyver continues next month.

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ok guys, give your thanks to Aether for typesetting for the first time!

[guyver]29_-_chapters_for_next_volume/1210/1[/guyver]

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Regarding Apollon's identity; I really didn't believe that he could be Arkanfel or Imakarum for a number of reasons, but after the last couple of issues it's obviously impossible to escape that conclusion. But I still have some concerns. Looking at Apollon in profile, it's impossible that there's a humanoid in there. Fully a quarter of the face and frontal lobes are intersected by the 'helmet'.

I also have trouble believing that Arkanfel would have a need to invent this fictitious persona when instead he could just appear before any of the zoalords (excepting the traitors who might resist) and simply take their crystals. Why would he care who knows?

But it couldn't be Imakarum either because the range of powers that Apollon has shown point to Arkanfel, who has the powers of all the Zoalords combined, right? (and can dominate the other lords telepathically)

So my thought is this.... is Apollon some kind of telepresence device? For Imakarum to use that somehow siphons Arkanfel's power? That they created together?

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here are 3 possibilities i tried out. do you think these are plausible?

post-1-0-43707100-1346868463_thumb.jpgpost-1-0-45124800-1346868506_thumb.jpgpost-1-0-86316600-1346868517_thumb.jpg

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quickly looking at this i would say that the nose would start where the sphere is at the front, so it would accomodate his nose and eyes, from there you can follow the contour of the head to fill the helmet...

i think i get what you are saying starwaster, you reckon Apollon is just a puppet that acts as a quasi Alkanfel, because hes too tired to do the work himself??

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here are 3 possibilities i tried out. do you think these are plausible?

post-1-0-43707100-1346868463_thumb.jpg post-1-0-45124800-1346868506_thumb.jpg post-1-0-86316600-1346868517_thumb.jpg

here are 3 possibilities i tried out. do you think these are plausible?

post-1-0-43707100-1346868463_thumb.jpg post-1-0-45124800-1346868506_thumb.jpg post-1-0-86316600-1346868517_thumb.jpg

mmmm I just dunno. first one looks like his frontal cranium is shrunken but I guess you saw that too so you tried the a few more versions. I also think there might be a subconcious urge to try to 'make it fit' since we're basically bringing up the question of 'could you fit a humanoid head in there'. So I hunted down a pretty good profile of Arkanfel and stuck it in there and played with it a bit. I'll try to attach it. My conclusion is that there's not quite as much head/helmet intersection but there still is some. The nose would be peeking out of the depression/slit under the sphere and the whole thing would be biting into the face a little bit.

However, the jawline is a damn near perfect match. Is that just Takaya's style showing through? Murakami / Imakarum also has a similar jawline.

So I just don't know. All I DO know is it takes a month WAY too long to go by. Hasn't anyone done anything about that yet???

Ok, this is what I've got. Sorry for the crappiness. Basically what I'm doing there is using layers in photoshop and trying to do a difference or exclusion with a 75% opacity on Apollon's armor. If you want I'll provide the PSD file to play around with but it's basically the same Apollon profile you used with Arkanfel awakening right after Gigantic Dark has shattered his Zoacrystal. (frontally, that chin does look more like Imakarum.... Akranfel's is too pointy)

apollon_arkanfel_comparison.jpg

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Upon looking at the pics you all have up, the human face looks like it would be cramped in the Apollon helmet (good thing none of the Zoalords are clausterphobic *kadunk kish*).

Still, it is possible that a humanoid's inside the armor. I think it's Imakarum in there because Apollon's taller than Alkanphel (going by size comparison between Zoalords and how tall Apollon was in comparison to Carleon during their fight; Alky's at the average human teenage male height, Apollon's the size of a full grown man).

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Upon looking at the pics you all have up, the human face looks like it would be cramped in the Apollon helmet (good thing none of the Zoalords are clausterphobic *kadunk kish*).

Still, it is possible that a humanoid's inside the armor. I think it's Imakarum in there because Apollon's taller than Alkanphel (going by size comparison between Zoalords and how tall Apollon was in comparison to Carleon during their fight; Alky's at the average human teenage male height, Apollon's the size of a full grown man).

It's funny you should mention that because a while ago I realized something was bothering me about Apollon's size. He's very close in height and build to Caerleon's battle form. How large IS that? The data sheets place him at 2.45 meters or just a bit over 8 feet. Neither Arkanfel or Imakarum are even close in size unless they transform. See below for comparison to Caerleon and also in comparison to the Segawa siblings. (they're actually quite close behind him)

I enclosed the pics in spoiler tags because they're largish and I'm not sure how to scale images here, or even if I can scale them.

So, something else to give me problems with Apollon being Arkanfel or Imakarum is that they'd have to be transformed to be as large as a zoalord. And if they WERE transformed I don't see them fitting in that outfit as both of their battle forms have all kinds of protrusions. (spikes out of Imakarum's head, spikey-wingey things out of Arkanfel's head and shoulders, etc) Unless one or both of them has the ability to alter their human size without transforming. So, more mystery, but how else would we have it, right? I wonder, any hope of a full revelation by Christmas? I can hope, right???

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So my thought is this.... is Apollon some kind of telepresence device? For Imakarum to use that somehow siphons Arkanfel's power? That they created together?

Damn. Never occurred to me that it doesn't need to be a person wearing armor, or an android... it could be something remote-controlled.

I still want to keep open the possibility that Apollyon is a robot sent by the Advents. Of course he would be as powerful as Archanfel - since Earth still exists, it was a given he would have to face the Prime Zoalord.

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starwaster, that's a heck of an observation.

I never even considered his size. he is pretty huge isn't he?

this page can give us a better idea - http://www.japan-legend.com/wiki/index.php?title=Edward_Caerleon

doesn't seem like a human form.

and somebody had the idea of it being purgstall... purgstall is 270cm or thereabouts.

the only zoalord we have seen so far that matches that height is caerleon.

i think it's a guyver zoalord.

their body is already as strong as and tougher than a guyver.

so it might make sense for the booster armour to not actually be prominent and instead be made of control metal like material?

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starwaster, that's a heck of an observation.

I never even considered his size. he is pretty huge isn't he?

this page can give us a better idea - http://www.japan-leg...Edward_Caerleon

doesn't seem like a human form.

and somebody had the idea of it being purgstall... purgstall is 270cm or thereabouts.

the only zoalord we have seen so far that matches that height is caerleon.

i think it's a guyver zoalord.

their body is already as strong as and tougher than a guyver.

so it might make sense for the booster armour to not actually be prominent and instead be made of control metal like material?

Wow that would be a hell of a revelation... but where did they get a bioboost unit? And as far as identity, the range of possible suspects would still have to be pretty narrow, right? I mean Apollon did take the twins to Silha and there's not a whole lot of people who know about the island.

Edit: Somehow I keep getting 'double-quotation' when I try to quote people in replies... must be a Chrome thing. Anyone else have problems with Chrome? (can't click on spoiler-type buttons anymore either on any board that has them)

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But there's no boost material, it looks like a hi-end version of zoanoid armour and why the cape?

Seems to far removed for it to be a Guyver Zoalord.

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